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if the supreme court upholds doma, all of that remains the same. if they overturn it, the federal government will have to treat married people as married people. >> more than half of the country now in support of same-sex marriage. is it that way? does the court line up that way as well? >> this is always a very difficult question. what effect does public opinion have on the justices? the official answer is none. they just apply the constitution. the real-world answer is, plenty. there are five republicans and four democrats on the supreme court. that's pretty much all you need to know. however, one of the republicans is anthony kennedy who has been generally very supportive of gay rights. so many people think he will join the democrats in voting to overturn doma. >> when talking about interracial marriage, i would imagine it was a very similar situation at that time. >> the parallels to the case you're referring to, loving versus virginia, 1967, the case that said states could no longer ban racial intermarriage, that was a big deal at the time. an
if the supreme court upholds doma, all of that remains the same. if they overturn it, the federal government will have to treat married people as married people. >> more than half of the country now in support of same-sex marriage. is it that way? does the court line up that way as well? >> this is always a very difficult question. what effect does public opinion have on the justices? the official answer is none. they just apply the constitution. the real-world answer is, plenty....
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tax return, and they can't get social security survivor's benefits and if the court upholds doe m s doma all is overturn and if it is overturned then the federal government will have to treat married people like married people. >> does it line up in the court that way as well? >> well, this is always a difficult question is what effect does public opinion have on the justices. the official answer is none. they apply the constitution, and the real world answer is plenty. there are five republicans and four democrats on the supreme court, and that is pretty much all you need to know, and however, one of the republicans is anthony kennedy who has been generally very supportive of gay rights and so many people think that he is going to join the democrats in vetting to overturn doma. >> and neither of us is old enough, but when we are are talking about interracial marriage i would imagine it is similar situation at that time. >> well, you know, the parallels to the case that you are referring to, "loving versus virginia" 1967, and the case that said states can no longer ban interracial marria
tax return, and they can't get social security survivor's benefits and if the court upholds doe m s doma all is overturn and if it is overturned then the federal government will have to treat married people like married people. >> does it line up in the court that way as well? >> well, this is always a difficult question is what effect does public opinion have on the justices. the official answer is none. they apply the constitution, and the real world answer is plenty. there are...
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. >> what the bill does -- >> reporter: now the defense of marriage act, also known by doma first passed by congress and signed by president clinton in 1996, is being challenged at the supreme court. >> it's being asked to decide whether as to whether or not congress can pass a law that treats same-sex couples who are already married under the laws of their state different from opposite sex couples. >> reporter: defenders of the law say congress has as much right as the states to make its own definition of marriage. >> doma is important because congress said it was important. i mean, we sent our elected representatives to washington, d.c., and they chose to say that marriage is one man and one woman for purposes of federal law. >> reporter: and conservatives say the founding fathers never contemplated gay marriage. >> because it's clearly not what anyone understood as marriage at the time of the framing of the constitution. >> reporter: still, same-sex families pay taxes and don't get the same benefit and the issue with doma really gets complicate federal they have children who are also
. >> what the bill does -- >> reporter: now the defense of marriage act, also known by doma first passed by congress and signed by president clinton in 1996, is being challenged at the supreme court. >> it's being asked to decide whether as to whether or not congress can pass a law that treats same-sex couples who are already married under the laws of their state different from opposite sex couples. >> reporter: defenders of the law say congress has as much right as the...
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. >>> proposition 8 and doma are about to have their day in court. but can the gop unstick itself and its platform from the 1950s? >>> and a former president is channeling bob ross by spending his time painting tacky little dogs. "new york" magazine art critic jerry saltz will tell us why this may be the best thing george w. bush has ever done. hang around. it's monday. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. these are sandra's "homemade" yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the deliciousness you desire. the brownie of your
. >>> proposition 8 and doma are about to have their day in court. but can the gop unstick itself and its platform from the 1950s? >>> and a former president is channeling bob ross by spending his time painting tacky little dogs. "new york" magazine art critic jerry saltz will tell us why this may be the best thing george w. bush has ever done. hang around. it's monday. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology...
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thing for the republican party at this point would be for the supreme court to strike down prop 8 and doma so this becomes settled law of the land and they do not have to deal with the schism inside their party and all the old guys who are culturally or religiously or for whatever reason resistant to marriage equality will no longer be holding office and will die off, i think is what josh says, and the republican party can move past this. >> well, it would take a brave republican in the meantime to move against the party on this with only 34% support in the republican party. and rand paul is not that brave republican. it's always fun to watch him torn between libertarianism and republicanism as he is on this thing, the libertarian view, of course, is that government should have nothing to do with religion in any way. they don't understand why the state would -- be issuing marriage licenses. but, you know, there he is. stuck defending the republican position. and -- but ari, going forward, if the supreme court doesn't help out the republican party this way, how long would it take for there
thing for the republican party at this point would be for the supreme court to strike down prop 8 and doma so this becomes settled law of the land and they do not have to deal with the schism inside their party and all the old guys who are culturally or religiously or for whatever reason resistant to marriage equality will no longer be holding office and will die off, i think is what josh says, and the republican party can move past this. >> well, it would take a brave republican in the...
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california same-sex marriage ban, known as proposition 8 and the federal defense of marriage act, or doma. coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern, and you can hear the as soon asnts on -- the audio is released and these will be air at 8:00 p.m. eastern. on tuesday, a justice department official told a house judiciary subcommittee that the government is open to the idea of requiring warrants for obtaining electronic communications during criminal investigations but added that there are situations where the warrant should not be required. the hearing was looking at revisions for the 1986 electronic communications privacy act. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security will come to order. the chair recognizes himself for five minutes for the opening statement. the electronics privacy at this complicated and outdated, and largely unconstitutional. it made sense when it was drafted but the role of the internet and electronics communication in the daily lives is vastly different than it was during the reagan administration ended needed reforms to bet
california same-sex marriage ban, known as proposition 8 and the federal defense of marriage act, or doma. coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern, and you can hear the as soon asnts on -- the audio is released and these will be air at 8:00 p.m. eastern. on tuesday, a justice department official told a house judiciary subcommittee that the government is open to the idea of requiring warrants for obtaining electronic communications during criminal investigations but added that there are situations...
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doma won't stop that. it's natural. all it does is inflict pain by denying the rights of those that have a different lifestyle than those of us who are straight. it's not going to stop this. you find somebody and fall in love. >> stephanie: okay. stop bringing that point up. stop poking me with the loser stick. bill, i have read a lot of legal analysis about that. this is what happened in prop 8. this is not hurting anybody. it's just opening a right to everybody, right? >> caller: well, and this is the thing. it is inflicting pain. i just read in the state journal this morning, a woman who had partner who died, and she has no right to even the wedding ring. it's horrible. it's ridiculous. >> stephanie: right. >> on facebook today a lot of gay people are switching their sign to a red equal sign. and a lot of straight people are starting to do that too. >> stephanie: oh. thank you, y'all straight people. mary, welcome. >> caller: hi, everybody. last week's show was pretty good, and that was good choice that you made putt
doma won't stop that. it's natural. all it does is inflict pain by denying the rights of those that have a different lifestyle than those of us who are straight. it's not going to stop this. you find somebody and fall in love. >> stephanie: okay. stop bringing that point up. stop poking me with the loser stick. bill, i have read a lot of legal analysis about that. this is what happened in prop 8. this is not hurting anybody. it's just opening a right to everybody, right? >> caller:...
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this seemed to be -- they seemed to be teeing up for perhaps striking down doma and leaving the california law for another day. >> that's a pretty interesting point. we'll talk to you again tomorrow. thank you, jeff. >>> talking about this issue of maybe it's bet tore let the american people decide, the supreme court should follow the people who seem to be going in the direction of gay marriage and not lead them. poll after poll we have seen a stark political divide on the issue. so the latest cnn poll, 70% of the democrats support gay marriage. 25% of republicans support it. obviously, those numbers starkly different. younger republicans, very different story. the republican party is split on this issue and "out front" tonight, republican strategist ann navarro who signed a legal brief to support gay marriage and ralph reid, the chairman of the safe and freedom coalition. ralph, you could say 25% of the republicans support it. it's clear our line is in line. we know what we want. when you look at younger republicans under 50, almost half, 49% support gay marriage and younger the number go
this seemed to be -- they seemed to be teeing up for perhaps striking down doma and leaving the california law for another day. >> that's a pretty interesting point. we'll talk to you again tomorrow. thank you, jeff. >>> talking about this issue of maybe it's bet tore let the american people decide, the supreme court should follow the people who seem to be going in the direction of gay marriage and not lead them. poll after poll we have seen a stark political divide on the issue....
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. >> this is fascinating, followed by the doma cases, which are just as complicated, but also as far reach welcome the following day. i have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. the fact that chief justice john robert's lesbian cousin will be sitting in the audience tomorrow, hearing oral arguments as well, it's like the personal mix in all the middle of it. this is going to be an amazing one to watch. kenji, thank you so much for being here. kenji yoshina is a constitutional law professor. we've got lots more coming up tonight, including news of national significance in both dakotas. and i swear i'm not making that up and there are two separate stories. >>> plus, what looks like basically an answer to a mystery that we covered on the show last week involving the murder of a state official in colorado. we've got some answers there. lots to come. stay with us. [ male announcer ] when you're at the corner of "multivitamin" and "multiple choice," come to walgreens for help finding the one that's right for you... like centrum silver. now, buy one, get one half off with balance rewa
. >> this is fascinating, followed by the doma cases, which are just as complicated, but also as far reach welcome the following day. i have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. the fact that chief justice john robert's lesbian cousin will be sitting in the audience tomorrow, hearing oral arguments as well, it's like the personal mix in all the middle of it. this is going to be an amazing one to watch. kenji, thank you so much for being here. kenji yoshina is a constitutional law...